Grace Kelly, her children, the accident

April 2024 · 23 minute read

I remember reading about Stéphanie a great deal in the tabloids when I was a child. I felt for her, being in the spotlight after tragically losing her mother. Her sister seemed perfect in comparison to her hell raising ways.

Any DLers have insight or gossip to share regarding Kelly and the Rainiers? What was Grace Kelly's reputation during her lifetime?

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by Anonymousreply 127December 26, 2021 1:46 AM

🎵She'll be comin' 'round the mountain when she comes 🎵

by Anonymousreply 2November 19, 2020 1:15 AM

She was a nymphomaniac who fucked Bing Crosby, then about 40 years older than her.

The Rainier's was an unhappy marriage.

Her uncle, playwright George Kelly, was a gay, pro-Nazi misogynist. Her mother was abusive and her father was an anti-Semite.

Her brother's affairs drove his wife out of Philadelphia, then he had an affair with a transgender night club performer.

Fun family.

by Anonymousreply 3November 19, 2020 1:15 AM

She fucked all her leading men minus Jimmy Stewart, who was very religious

by Anonymousreply 4November 19, 2020 1:16 AM

She was a whore who slept her way to the top then found her prince.

She was fucking for parts long before the Weinstein era.

by Anonymousreply 5November 19, 2020 1:19 AM

Everyone was fucking for parts back then in Hollywood. It was just a whore house with Cameras that happen to not shoot porn. Read the damn contracts, these women and men had no options if the studio heads didn't like how they gave head. Fucking your way to the top is like doing extra credit, you still have to perform on camera after the act. Throw some respect towards these Hollywood whores, they kept the masses entertained.

by Anonymousreply 6November 19, 2020 1:22 AM

True. Grace Kelly was a true star unlike today's mattresses.

Charlize Theron has little of the charisma or star power of Grace Kelly.

When I see Theron on the screen, i can just picture her opening her pussy for whatever pig would give her an A-list role.

by Anonymousreply 7November 19, 2020 1:25 AM

Bless you, DL! I knew you would give me a more honest and colorful portrait. I just assumed she was as classy as she looked in her prime.

I was wondering if the prince and princess had a happy marriage.

How did he handle the children after her death? Were they close to him?

I would hate to have an unloving spouse making the call on when the pull the plug.

Thank you!

by Anonymousreply 8November 19, 2020 1:26 AM

They aren’t “Rainiers”, they’re Grimaldis.

by Anonymousreply 9November 19, 2020 1:29 AM

There's been a lot of speculation about who was driving the car before it went off the cliff, specifically that Stephanie was driving. Is there any substance to this rumor? Of course, the Monaco police would do anything the prince wished preparing the official report.

by Anonymousreply 10November 19, 2020 1:31 AM

As I've heard it from my uncle in Monaco, it went:

[quote]Stephie, pull over. Mummy has a headache."

by Anonymousreply 11November 19, 2020 1:32 AM

Jackie, Audrey and Grace have been replaced by Kim, Khloe and Mylie. Pity.

by Anonymousreply 12November 19, 2020 1:37 AM

Half her face is a Philadelphia truck driver's.

by Anonymousreply 13November 19, 2020 1:41 AM

A whore and a drunk. My kind of gal.

by Anonymousreply 14November 19, 2020 1:46 AM

We're they connected to the Four Seasons Landscaping and the glory holes next Door ?

by Anonymousreply 15November 19, 2020 1:46 AM

R9 Thank you! I'm hopeless with royals.

by Anonymousreply 16November 19, 2020 1:50 AM

So sad, this one. I remember watching the funeral and being struck by how devastated Caroline and Rainier were, just shattered with grief. Whatever happened, I feel for Stephanie. Grace seemed to be a loving mother. And today Caroline seems quite the matriarch herself. I like the Grimaldis. So there!

by Anonymousreply 17November 19, 2020 1:50 AM

Any tea on Prince Alfred?

by Anonymousreply 18November 19, 2020 1:52 AM

Albert. Loves black pussy. Straight.

by Anonymousreply 19November 19, 2020 2:00 AM

Princess Stef travelled around Switzerland one year living in a caravan camper with her hot circus acrobat lover. She earned ever lasting cred for that.

by Anonymousreply 20November 19, 2020 2:11 AM

She was Irish American working class girl who acted her way into a Princess. In her later years she looks,like the bloated, heavy drinking depressed matriarch that are a dime a dozen in Philly horse country,

by Anonymousreply 21November 19, 2020 2:13 AM

She was not working class.

by Anonymousreply 22November 19, 2020 2:16 AM

Old man Kelly made his fortune early. They were not working class but too Irish and too Catholic to be part of Philadelphia’s high society.

by Anonymousreply 23November 19, 2020 2:19 AM

She may have been an easy lay, but she was ravishing and chic. Love her.

by Anonymousreply 24November 19, 2020 2:21 AM

Either mom was drunk and Stephanie had to drive or mom was drunk driving. Awful either way.

by Anonymousreply 25November 19, 2020 2:28 AM

A bricklayer who starts a company doing bricklaying is still working class - rich working class. Like the Deplorables in Long Island. Lots of money - but not education and cultural training/exposure.

by Anonymousreply 26November 19, 2020 2:29 AM

Grace Kelly didn't need to be from Main Line WASP money. That's the beauty of it.

by Anonymousreply 27November 19, 2020 2:32 AM

Her father was a 2 or 3 times gold? medallist in the Olympics for rowing? He parlayed his Olympic notoriety into a very successful construction business.

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by Anonymousreply 28November 19, 2020 2:36 AM

He appears to have been a charmer.

by Anonymousreply 29November 19, 2020 2:37 AM

Years later, Joan Rivers remarked that in death we all become saints, "suddenly Grace Kelly didn't drink." I don't think the coverup was about Stephanie driving, it was that Grace was drunk.

by Anonymousreply 30November 19, 2020 2:37 AM

R26 Grace’s mother was a college graduate, Mrs. Kelly’s brother had a Pulitzer for a play he wrote. I think Grace’s father rowed for some university.

by Anonymousreply 31November 19, 2020 2:38 AM

I don't understand how Bing Crosby became a movie star.

by Anonymousreply 33November 19, 2020 2:45 AM

Bing was the shit by 1930s standards. Look at the cool way he rattled his head on this number....

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by Anonymousreply 34November 19, 2020 2:48 AM

As she got older, she started looking like Olivia DeHavilland.

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by Anonymousreply 35November 19, 2020 2:55 AM

Why do some drinkers have so much facial bloat and others none?

by Anonymousreply 36November 19, 2020 2:57 AM

Do drinkers ever get UTIs? I would think not.

by Anonymousreply 37November 19, 2020 3:06 AM

Meet Rainier who's been most everywhere

From Zanzibar to Berkeley Square.

But Rainier's only seen the sights

A prince can see from Brooklyn Heights--

What a crazy pair!

'Cause they're Rainiers! Identical Rainiers, all the way!

One pair of matching Monagasques, but diff'rent as night and day!

by Anonymousreply 38November 19, 2020 3:43 AM

Back then women in their 50s look like women in their 70s do today.

by Anonymousreply 39November 19, 2020 3:43 AM

Speaking of drunks, nice to hear from you, R38

by Anonymousreply 40November 19, 2020 4:27 AM

I think there was a story somewhere that Princess Grace had a stroke at the wheel and that's what caused the crash.

by Anonymousreply 41November 19, 2020 4:47 AM

I was a better Grace Kelly than Nicole Kidman!

by Anonymousreply 42November 19, 2020 5:16 AM

I think someone tampered with the brakes on the car.

by Anonymousreply 43March 18, 2021 6:34 AM

Caroline was a little hell-raiser whore, constantly in the tabloids.

Then along came Stephanie, who was like "hold my beer, bitch", and suddenly Caroline was the saintly, respectable one.

Nobody really ever gave a shit about the brother, because he was bald and ugly, like his dad. Both girls were gorgeous in their youth.

by Anonymousreply 44March 18, 2021 6:48 AM

Remember in the early 70s when there was a scandal about a call girl ring staffed with suburban housewives?

Liz and Grace should had done a TV movie about that.

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by Anonymousreply 45March 18, 2021 6:57 AM

Maybe titled “Helen & Harriet: the New Haven Hosebag Story”

??

by Anonymousreply 46March 18, 2021 7:02 AM

Just started Robert Lacey’s 1990’s biography. Her mother was a lesbian, or so it would seem.

by Anonymousreply 47December 22, 2021 7:55 PM

[quote] Grace’s mother was a college graduate, Mrs. Kelly’s brother had a Pulitzer for a play he wrote. I think Grace’s father rowed for some university

This is datalounge, where cream puff gobbling whores in caftans and earrings have declared that anyone with Irish catholic blood is pure drunken trash. It’s one of the Datalounge commandments, along with —Italian Americans are guidos, American jews are shrewd & calculating and Norwegians eat lutefisk.

by Anonymousreply 48December 22, 2021 8:10 PM

R16. The Grimaldis are not royal. They are a princely family (except for Caroline, who is an HRH by virtue or her marriage to Prince Ernst of Hanover)

by Anonymousreply 49December 23, 2021 12:01 AM

[quote]Back then women in their 50s look like women in their 70s do today.

Yes, that's true. She was only 52 when she died. That's the same age as women like Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Lopez, and Julia Roberts... who all look younger than Grace did.

by Anonymousreply 51December 23, 2021 12:15 AM

I see from Wikipedia that Grace's paternal grandmother was a Costello - wouldn't that be Italian? Is she related to Lou?

by Anonymousreply 52December 23, 2021 1:09 AM

[quote]I think there was a story somewhere that Princess Grace had a stroke at the wheel and that's what caused the crash.

That's always been the official story. Even says so in the article OP posted.

by Anonymousreply 53December 23, 2021 1:52 AM

[quote] Any DLers have insight or gossip to share regarding Kelly and the Rainiers?

No, OP, we only have demented and undocumented fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 55December 23, 2021 2:22 AM

[quote] Bing was the shit

What does this mean when translated into the English language?

by Anonymousreply 56December 23, 2021 2:24 AM

She did a great job hiding all her dirty laundry. Even after death.

by Anonymousreply 57December 23, 2021 2:29 AM

[quote]Back then women in their 50s look like women in their 70s do today.

True. She was only 52 when she died but god did she look a helluva lot older. A "rich" woman in her early 50s would never look anything like this today.

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by Anonymousreply 58December 23, 2021 2:40 AM

[Quote]I see from Wikipedia that Grace's paternal grandmother was a Costello - wouldn't that be Italian? Is she related to Lou?

R52 Costello is an Irish last name.

[Quote]Costello sounds Italian, but isn’t.  The root of the name is Irish, from Oistealb which is the Gaelic rendering of Jocelyn and in Gaelic is a personal name meaning “resembling a deer.”  Costello is the anglicization of the Gaelic Coisdealbahaigh.  Costello is the main spelling today. A variant in Ireland is Costelloe.

[Quote]The Jocelyn in question was the Anglo-Norman knight Jocelyn de Angulo who had come to Ireland at the time of Strongbow. His descendants settled in Connacht and adopted the Gaelic name Mac Oistealb or Mac Costello.

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by Anonymousreply 59December 23, 2021 2:47 AM

Consider that Stephanie not only lost her mother, but also was in the car falling off a fucking great cliff. Then the rumors that the accident was her fault.

Can you imagine how much victimhood she'd have squeezed out of that if she was a millennial? Lens Dunham's mind just exploded.

by Anonymousreply 60December 23, 2021 3:06 AM

Jeez….a bunch of prudes here. Grace had a healthy sex drive and wasn’t hung up on prevailing Catholic guilt about enjoying sex. She slept with a lot of her co-stars but it was after she had the job, so I don’t think she “slept her way to the top.” Their wives were pissed, but Hollywood’s propensity for pairing a beautiful 20-something with a bored, long-married 50-something as an onscreen couple didn’t help. Her father had enough money that she didn’t have to work, she wasn’t desperate. But that face was her lottery ticket. I read that in the last year or so, she and Ranier became quite close. He was devastated at her death, the pictures from her funeral were heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 61December 23, 2021 3:17 AM

Amber Heard reminds me of Grace Kelly. They put weight on the same way, too. It goes the face / jowls.

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by Anonymousreply 62December 23, 2021 3:39 AM

Aren't car accidents wonderful ways to get rid of annoying princesses?

by Anonymousreply 67December 23, 2021 4:10 AM

To R44, I just spit my beer out laughing and choking on your comment.

by Anonymousreply 68December 23, 2021 4:13 AM

[quote] Grace had a healthy sex drive and wasn’t hung up on prevailing Catholic guilt about enjoying sex. She slept with a lot of her co-stars

Oh, R61. Did you hear all this directly from those founts of fact—Hedda Hopper or Louells Parsons?

by Anonymousreply 69December 23, 2021 4:14 AM

Oleg Cassini was the love of her life, but her parents didn't approve...

"The designer, who also dressed Jackie Kennedy, was responsible for Kelly's elegant look, but this wasn't enough to win over her family. Despite the two getting engaged, the actress was forced to call off the engagement to marry Prince Rainier upon her parents' wishes."

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by Anonymousreply 70December 23, 2021 4:38 AM

I don't think the brakes were tampered with. It does say something that we've never heard whatever 'truth' there is to know. And yeah, Steph had a raucous few years. But if paparazzi and film crews followed any of us around from age 18 to 35, how many of us would emerge squeaky clean? Hell, any photogs wot (sic) followed me around would still be trying to get the lube off their lenses.

by Anonymousreply 71December 23, 2021 4:43 AM

"Steph had a raucous few years."

Like about 45 years now

by Anonymousreply 72December 23, 2021 4:48 AM

Grace died 10 months after Natalie Wood.

by Anonymousreply 73December 23, 2021 4:56 AM

^ Wow, now there's a factoid no one could live without

by Anonymousreply 74December 23, 2021 5:01 AM

^Glad you liked it, here's another . . . Grace died 21 months after John Lennon.

by Anonymousreply 75December 23, 2021 5:07 AM

I was very young at the time, but I can remember when Caroline and Stephanie were all over the press in the 1980s. They were constantly in magazines etc. Then they both aged out and you never heard about them anymore. Caroline's children never got much press attention in the US once they hit young adulthood, I guess because the memory of Grace Kelly was too far in the past for her grandchildren to be relevant.

by Anonymousreply 76December 23, 2021 5:20 AM

I saw Oleg Cassini on the #1 train around 1983. I was surprised I recognized him, but I did.

by Anonymousreply 77December 23, 2021 5:23 AM

Margaret Majer, Grace’s German mother, provided the looks. Like most Teutonic Fräulein, she didn’t age well and after 30 became a hefty Brunhilde.

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by Anonymousreply 78December 23, 2021 5:24 AM

@r75, Grace Kelly died within 4 months and 10 days from my birthday, How about that?

If Grace Kelly were still alive she would be 92 years one month and 10 days old

So there

by Anonymousreply 79December 23, 2021 5:25 AM

Princess Caroline's son Andrea Casiraghi could not look anymore "Eurotrash" if he tried.

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by Anonymousreply 80December 23, 2021 5:32 AM

Andrea was gorgeous in his late teens, but he developed a serious drug problem soon after and it really affected his looks.

by Anonymousreply 82December 23, 2021 10:47 AM

R52, as R59 states, Costello is a fairly common Irish surname. Lou Costello seems to be the main reason some folks think differently.

by Anonymousreply 84December 23, 2021 11:06 AM

[quote][R16]. The Grimaldis are not royal. They are a princely family (except for Caroline, who is an HRH by virtue or her marriage to Prince Ernst of Hanover)

Correct. They are Serene Highnesses, not Royal Highnesses.

by Anonymousreply 85December 23, 2021 2:01 PM

There was a very trashy/enjoyable doc on tv this summer about the "curse of the Grimaldi's." I think the curse being none of them can find happiness. Anyway, when Caroline was studying in Paris, late 70s, the French tabloids/gossip magazines loved her. Lots of pap pics of Caroline in tight disco pants. She married a much older business man, against Grace's wishes, Grace knew it wouldn't last, and she was right. After Grace's death, Caroline stepped up. Her disco days were over. She sort of became Monaco's first lady. Albert, the male heir, was too lazy or immature to do so. (become first lady!) Albert took a long, long time to assume the responsibilities of his office.

Where's Albert's wife locked up? What's wrong with her, apart from being married to Albert?

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by Anonymousreply 86December 23, 2021 2:54 PM

R86, Philippe Junot was 17 years older than Princess Caroline, but he was still quite dishy.

I remember a pre-wedding paparazzi shot of them sailing on a yacht, with Caroline topless and Junot kissing her bare breasts.

Junot is still alive at 81.

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by Anonymousreply 87December 23, 2021 3:29 PM

She pulled it off. I give her a lot of credit. Being snubbed by Phillys Main Line society then skyrocketing beyond them all to become a European princess. She probably would have like to continue to be an actress - but in reality the cruelty of life as an aging actress would not have been pretty either.

She spent summers at the Jersey Shore with her family and the Grimaldi kids were close with the Kelly cousins. Seemingly unpretentious and down to earth despite the aristocratic entitlement. She gave it her all and was never cruel it seems. I admire her.

by Anonymousreply 88December 23, 2021 3:38 PM

Yup, I remember her and Caroline visiting the Jersey shore not long after Caroline's marriage, r88.

by Anonymousreply 89December 23, 2021 4:55 PM

Grace visiting her ancestral Irish home in Co. Mayo. She bought the cottage, now a ruin and the family still own it.

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by Anonymousreply 90December 23, 2021 5:44 PM

I think it's cool that Albert has an American accent (when speaking English).

by Anonymousreply 91December 23, 2021 5:45 PM

R91, He attended college in Massachusetts.

by Anonymousreply 92December 23, 2021 5:58 PM

Thanks, R92. Did not know.

by Anonymousreply 93December 23, 2021 6:00 PM

I want to college with Grace's nephew, whose last name was Levine. You were reminded not to say "Leveen" but to say "LeVIIINE"

by Anonymousreply 94December 23, 2021 6:06 PM

Grace's star power would have dimmed by the early 60s anyway, when the zeitgeist started to change. She was the quintessential 1950s star (along with Liz Taylor). She was better off leaving Hollywood before the industry got sick of her.

My guess is that Grace was driving drunk and that led to the accident. Easy enough to cover up, as the Grimaldis are extremely powerful in their tiny kingdom.

by Anonymousreply 95December 23, 2021 6:54 PM

R95, Didn't the coroner say Grace suffered a stroke?

by Anonymousreply 96December 23, 2021 7:20 PM

The world was initially told that Grace suffered a broken leg, when in fact she was already brain dead.

by Anonymousreply 97December 23, 2021 7:21 PM

[quote]She was better off leaving Hollywood before the industry got sick of her.

She also didn't age well, it would've been very hard for her if she'd stayed in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 98December 23, 2021 9:19 PM

I'm not sure if fat-faced Grace could have redeemed Hitchcock's frigid 'Marnie' movie. But she would have had to be better than that hopeless Teflon matchstick woman.

by Anonymousreply 99December 23, 2021 9:24 PM

Live near graces nephew - LeVine. Took me a while to realize it’s Levine. They were all social climbers - which in Philly meant you had to be a WASP. Philadelphia Lawyer with Paul Newman is a good movie about this. Part of why Philly died and NYC boomed.

by Anonymousreply 100December 24, 2021 3:05 AM

Grace might have made a good Desireé in " A Little Night Music".

by Anonymousreply 101December 24, 2021 6:12 AM

Terrible actress. She was the 1950s Hedy Lamarr, except I always found Lamarr more beautiful. Kelly was just the prototype of "icy gorgeous blonde."

There's a lot of weird ageism on this thread with her looks at the time of her death - I honestly preferred it when you could see women age, even the rich and famous ones! 55 year olds aren't supposed to look like Julia Roberts or Jennifer Aniston, their faces pulled like a drum.

by Anonymousreply 102December 24, 2021 6:24 AM

r102 it's just kind of startling to see what women used to look like when they aged naturally. Even upper middle-class women don't look like that anymore, never mind rich and famous women.

by Anonymousreply 103December 24, 2021 6:34 AM

R103 I've been recently rewatching The Golden Girls and the women (who were middle to upper-middle class) were supposed to be in their 50s on that show, but today they read at least 10-15 years older.

I honestly think the way women aged back then was a lot healthier for their mental states, people talk a big game about feminism nowadays, but at the same time totally ignore how harmful and exhausting it is for modern women to "age well." And men are (to some degree) still allowed to look old.

by Anonymousreply 104December 24, 2021 6:44 AM

r104 I just posted in another thread that Katharine Hepburn was in her early 70s in On Golden Pond but by modern standards she looked like she was in her 90s.

Lucille Ball and Bette Davis also looked like ancient gargoyles in their 70s. You never see women that age who look that OLD anymore.

by Anonymousreply 105December 24, 2021 6:51 AM

[quote] I was very young at the time, but I can remember when Caroline and Stephanie were all over the press in the 1980s. They were constantly in magazines etc. Then they both aged out and you never heard about them anymore.

It had less to do with them aging and more to do with the absence of their mother. Without her, the Grimaldis are not very interesting--no more of interest than the princely houses of Andorra or Liechtenstein.

by Anonymousreply 106December 24, 2021 7:03 AM

I recall reading my aunt's People magazine back issues about Stephanie dating Jean-Paul Belmondo's son, and then moving on to Alain Delon's son, and then getting with Rob Lowe.

by Anonymousreply 107December 24, 2021 7:06 AM

Stefanie was trashy as hell. I think she was given a break because of the manner of her mother's death and the fact that she became motherless so young but damn, this girl always looked drunk and high. Here she is with her Swiss circus guy Franco Knie.

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by Anonymousreply 108December 24, 2021 7:43 AM

Stephanie can't seem to find any dick outside the Palace. She became pregnant with her married bodyguard, had 2 kids with him, then married him and divorced a year later.

A few years later she had another child but wouldn't name the father. He turned out to be the married head of Palace Security.

This gurl ain't right.

by Anonymousreply 109December 24, 2021 7:56 AM

Stephanie has always had a rough, hard look about her.

by Anonymousreply 110December 24, 2021 7:59 AM

Stephanie's son bulges in every pic.

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by Anonymousreply 111December 24, 2021 8:01 AM

[quote]Caroline was a little hell-raiser whore, constantly in the tabloids.

[quote]Then along came Stephanie, who was like "hold my beer, bitch", and suddenly Caroline was the saintly, respectable one.

I haven't laughed so hard for quite a while. You do have a way with words, R44.

by Anonymousreply 112December 24, 2021 8:20 AM

This is the definitive and crack-up worthy, as in laughing at the sisters' romantic rivalries. It does make it sound like Grace even as easily manipulated by her daughters. Stephanie was driving around Monaco illegally at 13 or so.

Fascinating and dishy article I've posted on poor Charlene posts before.

Read it and go WTF!

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by Anonymousreply 113December 24, 2021 8:35 AM

Grace continued to party with the Hollywood set in the south of France each summer on the yachts of her pals. Big boozer.She also partied in Marbella and Gstaad. From all accounts the Palace was a lonely life

I believe it was in Richard Burton's memoirs that he wrote about Grace being present on his yacht when Rachel Roberts got hammered and went batshit crazy (she was bipolar). They had to put her in hospital

by Anonymousreply 114December 24, 2021 8:36 AM

Stephanie went from a classic 80s chiseled debutante to a rode hard and put up wet trailer park crackwhore driving a 20 year old Camaro

by Anonymousreply 115December 24, 2021 9:25 AM

From the VF article above:

Late that night, I learned from a Riviera source,

Stephanie called a friend of his. "En tout cas, my sister has always been jealous of me," Stephanie whispered into the phone.

"Well, you certainly look far better in photographs than Caroline does," the voice on the other end consoled her.

"Oui!" agreed Stephanie.

"And you're more popular."

"Oui!" Stephanie repeated. Then came the coup de grâce. "And I choose better men than she does."

by Anonymousreply 116December 24, 2021 9:50 AM

From the VF article above:

Late that night, I learned from a Riviera source,

Stephanie called a friend of his. "En tout cas, my sister has always been jealous of me," Stephanie whispered into the phone.

"Well, you certainly look far better in photographs than Caroline does," the voice on the other end consoled her.

"Oui!" agreed Stephanie.

"And you're more popular."

"Oui!" Stephanie repeated. Then came the coup de grâce. "And I choose better men than she does."

by Anonymousreply 117December 24, 2021 9:51 AM

The VF article makes it sound like those close to the family believe Stephanie was driving when Grace died. Ugh I always thought this was just a bitchy rumor. Plus named sources said Stephanie adored Grace This is so bloody tragic It explains a lot

by Anonymousreply 118December 24, 2021 10:19 AM

Sorry about the double posts above. I got an error message that it couldn't post the first time.

by Anonymousreply 119December 24, 2021 10:43 AM

@r113, That's a pretty good read, it kind of puts all the Grimaldi girls escapades in a nice timeline. Their love lives can be a bit hard to follow. They sure have one thing in common, they like Italian and French smooth-talkin' bad boys

I can relate ;-)

by Anonymousreply 120December 24, 2021 11:38 AM

R103 R104 R105 All age groups are getting younger. But it’s because of the generations.

Gen X is in their 50’s now. These are people who were teenagers in the late 70’s and 80’s. They grew up with Farrah Fawcett and Madonna. Why would they look like that blue haired old ladies? Or matronly women lol.

by Anonymousreply 121December 24, 2021 11:57 AM

[quote] Stephanie has always had a rough, hard look about her.

The smoking hasn't helped. She was beautiful girl.

by Anonymousreply 122December 24, 2021 4:58 PM

[quot]Gen X is in their 50’s now. These are people who were teenagers in the late 70’s and 80’s.

Late 80s and early 90s as well. Everybody forgets about the younger Gen Xers.

by Anonymousreply 123December 24, 2021 5:43 PM

[quote]I honestly think the way women aged back then was a lot healthier for their mental states, people talk a big game about feminism nowadays, but at the same time totally ignore how harmful and exhausting it is for modern women to "age well." And men are (to some degree) still allowed to look old.

A lot of it was down to unhealthy habits, and I don't think there is anything wrong with eating well, exercise and trying to look your best.

by Anonymousreply 124December 25, 2021 5:12 PM

Princess Stephanie did some modelling when she was young, she had the right figure for an 80s model, lean but not emaciated.

She was good-looking, but in a VERY butch way, and she only got butcher as she got older. Well, she's absolutely, positively straight, which was kind of a surprise to me.

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by Anonymousreply 126December 26, 2021 12:52 AM

[quote]She was the quintessential 1950s star (along with Liz Taylor).

Fuck you, R95.

by Anonymousreply 127December 26, 2021 1:46 AM

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